Monday, July 31, 2006

Interesting Facts About the Building,7340,L-3283816,00.html
VIDEO - An IDF investigation has found that the building in Qana struck by the Air Force fell around eight hours after being hit by the IDF.

"The attack on the structure in the Qana village took place between midnight and one in the morning. The gap between the timing of the collapse of the building and the time of the strike on it is unclear," Brigadier General Amir Eshel, Head of the Air Force Headquarters told journalists at the Defense Ministry in Tel Aviv, following the incidents at Qana.

Note that they offer explanations but don't have any definitive answers. General Eshel did not come forward with any accusations, all he's saying is that there's something strange here.

I will add this to the list of weird things. If the building gets hit at 1 AM, how come the people inside don't just leave the place? Your building gets hit by a bomb and you just go on sleeping? Also, please... how can you live there, with children, and still allow HA people store explosives in your village and launch rockets from there? It's beyond me.


Jean said...

israelimom, I'll answer one question you asked: "I will add this to the list of weird things. If the building gets hit at 1 AM, how come the people inside don't just leave the place? Your building gets hit by a bomb and you just go on sleeping?"

The building didn't get hit directly.
the bombs fell next to the building, not ON the building.
As to how the people could stay there sleeping, keep in mind that those people were refugees from elsewhere, not the normal residents of this building.

Now to explain to you what it means to be a refugee in qana, which is kind of contradictory.

Being a Refugee in Qana, means that you are one of the poorest people of the south, it means you could not afford a car to flee completely from the danger zone, it means you could not afford to pay the fuel to flee, it means that your house has already been targeted, it also means you have a family of many (many) members, especially children, and you feel damn helpless to protect them.

It is easy for us to say, they should have left the building.
But to where ?? it was the middle of the night, those people were refugees in a town that is not theirs ! they were stuck in that building, hearing bombs and rockets outside !
flee the building ? go outside and be even more exposed ? I guess it was not even an option.

As for the HA, I hardly can imagine them knocking on the people asking "hey, god bless. we just wanted to ask you if it's okay if we launched a few katyushas on israel from near your building !"
No, israelimom, they just DO ! they have done it from christian villages in the south, druze villages etc..

Stay safe, and tonight, when you tuck in your children, think that many families won't be able to do that simple yet so beautiful thing.

Ryan said...

God almightly, Israeli mom, you would blame the dead for their deaths no matter what happened. There is no fuel, the bridges are destroyed, there is bombing everywhere, where the hell are they supposed to go. And you have the audacity to imply the dead are responsible for their deaths? I'm ashamed they were American bombs. I'm ashamed we give your country any aid at all.

IsrealiMom said...

Ryan, dear, I would appreciate if you stop putting words into my mouth. I never accused those poor souls of anything. I was wondering if maybe something was at play on the part of the Hezbulla, maybe not allowing people ot leave the building or something in that line. Having read Jean's explanation, I can see now what the refugees haven't left the building. Thank you Jean.

Ryan, just out of curiosity, do you even see the Hezbulla's part in all of this? In this war in general and in this specific bombing and killing of innocent civilians in particulat?

catarina said...

The bombings been going on for over 19 days and yet there's people that are NOT leaving because they don't have a car? That's insane! How can you drive through the carnage? Do you have legs? WALK, RUN, HOP, SKIP and get the hell out.

This is war and it's Lebanon's government that should've faced the devil and got rid of the evil before they allowed it into their government. The devil must raise it's ugly head at some point, those six years flew by too fast.

Did you forget what Nasrallah stated on October 22, 2002 (I shall never forget this; as it was on my Mother's Birthday, ) "If the Jews all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide."

I said it once and I'll say it again. It's Hezbollah that has brainwashed the Lebanese people because they have built schools, hospitals etc and have embedded themselves so deep within the Lebonese infrastructure, that all fingers point to Israel when people die from incoming attacks. You had plenty of time to get out, but wait, didn't anyone tell you that there's a War going on and there is no safe haven? Did Hezbollah provide you a way out? No, they didn't. This was a planned war and you were their planned shields.

Read up on the evil Hezbollah. They think of nothing to sacrifice their own in order to achieve thier ultimate goal; to exterminate Israel and one day, the United States.

Hey Ryan ~ I'm NOT ashamed of Israel or Israeli Mom!

Don't allow the news to do the thinking for you. Go enlighten yourself about the history of Hezbollah, then come back and apologize for your rude comments.

Jad Aoun said...

According to sources within Lebanon, the building did not collaspe immediately. It was struck at 1am and at the time, there were over a 100 people taking shelter in it. The few people who were sheltering in order adjacent buildings tried to get as many people out before the building collapsed. The majority of people killed were in the basement of the building which was hard to reach.

IsrealiMom said...

Jad, how do people in Lebanon explain the time discrepancy? I've heard people here figure there were Hezbulla explosives in the building and some fire took its time reaching them. Nobody knows as much, of course, people just speculate.

Jean said...


My advice to you, calm down, read well.
why are you trying to show us how cruel Hizbullah (HA) is ??
We all agree on that.

Now MOVE ON !!
we were discussing different matters !

Oh and Catarina, I would really, really, like to see you trying to flee an area with your 10-15 children, and wife, on roads that have been bombarded from all sides, with fighter jets roaring above your head, and HA fighters trying to prevent you from leaving.
On foot you said ?? yeah right...

If I said your comment is irrelative, that would be a euphemism.

Stay safe catarina, and pray for the dead angels (the children, that is, in case you are wondering).


catarina said...

Jean ~ I truly feel terrible for your situation and I stated days ago that moving from point A to point B must be terrifying at best.

I apologize for offending you and I have been praying for all innocent people, Lebanese and Israeli's.

I have read about the refugees and it is my anger at Hezbollah and the Lebonese government that has allowed this to happen.

I am also very surprised to read your last comment stating that HA wouldn't allow you to leave. Now, that puts the ultimate twist on the already unimaginable situation at hand.

I couldn't provide you with answers or suggestions. I'm sure that all avenues have been thought of and exhausted.

Unfortunately Hezbollah couldn't keep their part of the bargain within the cease fire which only means more casualties.

I will continue to pray for all of you.

Me? I am safe and have all the comforts I need. Don't think for a moment that brings me any joy right now. It may be just as easy for you to think I'm a very callous person, but I'm not.

I suppose if I did have one wish, is that I wish no one had the right to impose their beliefs on anyone. The irony of Religion has come full circle once again.

Take Care and God be with you and yours Jean ~

Jean said...

thank you catarina,

obviously we needed to clarify that point.

Fortunately for me, I'm not in the south. I'm not even in Lebanon. i'm not even muslim.

But that doesn't prevent me from feeling the pain of the people there.

Again, thank you for your good wishes.